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HELP PLS - VCDS has picked a few faults, before it stopped working.

Started by fordnewbie, August 21, 2016, 08:31:52 PM

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Hi guys,

My apologies to those for not replying sooner to some of their messages.  It's just been very hectic and I've only had the chance to start re-checking my car issues today.

I've used a KKL409 cable from ebay with VCDS and it found a few faults, but some I missed before VCDS crashed before I could write down which ones they were.  All I know one of them was related to a turbo issue and the other with central locking.  These though I will come back to once I've got the system running up once again.

For now, here are the two faults & information I've managed to capture:-

1. 19463 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40). No Signal.  P3007 - 35-10 ---Intermittent

2. 01548 - Sensor for Parking Aid: Rear Right (G206). 37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

Could you guys please tell me:-

1. what these errors mean
2. Do I require new components
3. How do I know what part number/model to order that would fit my vehicle?
4. Are these parts difficult to change if I did the job myself?

Thanks very much.

Faulty camshaft sensor,fairly easy to change just need to pop top timing cover off to access and remove a rubber grommet to extract wiring.

1 parking sensor required on rear,easy to push out and change.

You won't need a part number just your reg should do when you tell a motor factor/dealer what you require.

Quote from: johnnyroper on August 21, 2016, 11:42:13 PM
Faulty camshaft sensor,fairly easy to change just need to pop top timing cover off to access and remove a rubber grommet to extract wiring.

1 parking sensor required on rear,easy to push out and change.

You won't need a part number just your reg should do when you tell a motor factor/dealer what you require.

Hello again mate.  Long time no speak.


That's great that I can do the job myself, but i'm purchasing the parts from eBay as the dealers or local shops are too expensive (unless you know somewhere cheaper, lol), so I want to make sure that it's not the wrong one or a fake one.

Couple of other things :-

1. Is there a picture / video guide that I can follow to take out these parts?

2. Would the rear bumper need coming off to replace the parking sensor?

Hello yes it's been a while.


Not sure if there is a guide in ref library but all you need to do is take out air box,remove top timing cover with the 2 Spring clips. Once off you will see the sensor it is held in by a locating peg and a bolt. If you follow the cable you will see a grommet pop that out and then the sensor plug can be pushed through the hole.

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-V-1-9-TDI-2003-TO-2008-CAMSHAFT-POSITION-SENSOR-/171753045209?hash=item27fd477cd9%3Ag%3A-pkAAOSwNSxVK7DJ&_trkparms=pageci%253Af223f021-682c-11e6-9b57-005056b2547e%257Cparentrq%253Ab0d0dc5f1560a7944d3f5522fffd23e6%257Ciid%253A9

Here's an eBay link the 1.9pd sensor is same for all engines.

Parking sensor wise personally I wouldn't get one off eBay as from experience they are cheap copies and do not work,maybe post on here see if someone has a good used one knocking about they would sell?
No you don't need to take bumper off,just look underneath there are 2 plastic tags on bumper gently push them away from sensor while pushing sensor through hole. Then just unplug,swap over and push replacement in to bumper.

Quote from: johnnyroper on August 22, 2016, 07:03:34 AM
Hello yes it's been a while.

Not sure if there is a guide in ref library but all you need to do is take out air box,remove top timing cover with the 2 Spring clips. Once off you will see the sensor it is held in by a locating peg and a bolt. If you follow the cable you will see a grommet pop that out and then the sensor plug can be pushed through the hole.

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-V-1-9-TDI-2003-TO-2008-CAMSHAFT-POSITION-SENSOR-/171753045209?hash=item27fd477cd9%3Ag%3A-pkAAOSwNSxVK7DJ&_trkparms=pageci%253Af223f021-682c-11e6-9b57-005056b2547e%257Cparentrq%253Ab0d0dc5f1560a7944d3f5522fffd23e6%257Ciid%253A9

Here's an eBay link the 1.9pd sensor is same for all engines.

Parking sensor wise personally I wouldn't get one off eBay as from experience they are cheap copies and do not work,maybe post on here see if someone has a good used one knocking about they would sell?
No you don't need to take bumper off,just look underneath there are 2 plastic tags on bumper gently push them away from sensor while pushing sensor through hole. Then just unplug,swap over and push replacement in to bumper.

Thanks very much johnny for the link and info.

CAM SENSOR:What's the difference between the one in the link you've shown me and this one???  :-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-GALAXY-95-06-1-9-TDi-CAM-CAMSHAFT-POSITION-SPEED-SENSOR-NEW-/281580858354?hash=item418f86ebf2:g:cS8AAOSwxYxUygYl

PARKING SENSOR: I'd certainly be a very happy man if all it involves is pushing some plastic tags, but I'm sure I read somewhere that for models above 2005, the bumper has to come off and mine was registered in 2006??? Also, I've noticed that there seems to be 2 different parking sensors for the galaxy:-



&




Mine looks like the second one.  But is there a difference or can both be fitted to the rear bumper?

I didn't realise you can buy stuff on this forum.  How can I know the person sending it is genuine?

probably just who manufactures them as all PD use same sensor.


The parking sensors are easy to tell apart have a look at yours and see if they are round or if they have the oval in middle. The small one might work with both but it will not clip in to the bumper due to length I don't think.
I am not sure about later models needing bumper off mine does not they simply pop out of the lower black trim. Soon be able to tell by looking at yours and if you can look underneath and see where it goes through bumper.

I have purchased a few items off members and never had any issues,obviously there can always be dodgy people but my experience is members on here are trustworthy and good to their word.

Quote from: johnnyroper on August 22, 2016, 09:25:47 AM
probably just who manufactures them as all PD use same sensor.


The parking sensors are easy to tell apart have a look at yours and see if they are round or if they have the oval in middle. The small one might work with both but it will not clip in to the bumper due to length I don't think.
I am not sure about later models needing bumper off mine does not they simply pop out of the lower black trim. Soon be able to tell by looking at yours and if you can look underneath and see where it goes through bumper.

I have purchased a few items off members and never had any issues,obviously there can always be dodgy people but my experience is members on here are trustworthy and good to their word.

So other than it being a different manufacturer,  quality wise the cam sensor in my link should be no different?

I checked out the market place on this forum, but there isn't anything on sale at the moment.  I'll just have to purchase the pdc from somewhere else I guess as I need it asap.

I'll check the location of this pdc sensor when I get home later today,but mine is definitely has the oval shape within it.

Cannot comment on the quality as I don't have experience of vw can sensors. From Vauxhall days we never had issues with aftermarket can and crank sensors,the ones to have oe or Bosch are maf and map.


If you put a post in the market place for good used Pdc sensor required someone might respond.


Have you cleared these codes as they may be old faults? you will generate a faulty cam sensor code if engine is run with it disconnected.
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Quote from: Chrispb on August 22, 2016, 12:27:56 PM
Have you cleared these codes as they may be old faults? you will generate a faulty cam sensor code if engine is run with it disconnected.

Hi Chris.  Sorry I forgot to mention that yes I did clear the codes, but it came back on with a couple of hours after using the vehicle.

Btw, may I ask what the systems of a faulty cam sensor are?

Sorry prev question should be "Btw, may I ask what the SYMPTOMS of a faulty cam sensor are?"

Sorry to post here again guys.  But could someone kindly have a look at the ebay link below and tell me if this is the correct original parking sensor that johnny is referring to?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=182240985525&fromMakeTrack=true#ht_500wt_1414

If it is, then at least I won't have to wait to find one.

Thanks very much.

August 22, 2016, 06:07:03 PM #12 Last Edit: February 13, 2022, 01:11:11 PM by insanitybeard
Yep, those are the O.E fitment parking sensors. I bought a new one from Ford a while ago- it was 60 odd quid plus VAT.........  ::)

P.S, regarding the Cam position sensor, take a read here (and some of the links within), I think some of the symptoms are outlined.
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Thanks for the helpful info insanitybeard.

Yes those are almost exactly the same symptoms, including rough idle/shaking, stalling either whilst stationary or when I set off in first gear.

I've ordered the both sensors.  Let's hope they are the correct ones.  I tried taking off the parking sensor on the rear bumper, but it won't come off.  Not sure how to disconnect it.

The parking sensors get a build up of dirt behind them so can be tight to push out. But if you get underneath hold the tabs across while pushing with thumb it should come out.

Quote from: johnnyroper on August 22, 2016, 11:37:11 PM
The parking sensors get a build up of dirt behind them so can be tight to push out. But if you get underneath hold the tabs across while pushing with thumb it should come out.

Thanks buddy.  I'm waiting for the parking sensor to arrive before taking the old one off, but I'll let you know how I get on.

I've had a lot of issues with regards to the KKL 409.1 cable & vcds software.  It 90% of the time doesn't detect the cable and it's really frustrating.

Anyway, for the short period of time I got it to work, it's thrown up a few more errors.  Maybe someone could kindly advise on these and how to resolve the problem:-


Cent. Elect.
01143 - Central Locking Motors; Driver Door and Tank Valve Unlocked.  36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
01142 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs. 36-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent

Airbag
00532 - Supply Voltage B+.  07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

Thanks

Hi, I dont know if you are aware of this site from Ross-tech, the makers of VCDS.  http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00532 , Its called Ross-Tech Wiki and has lots of valuable info including fault codes and possible solutions. Well worth putting a shortcut to on your computer.
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Quote from: steveo59 on August 23, 2016, 10:16:15 PM
Hi, I dont know if you are aware of this site from Ross-tech, the makers of VCDS.  http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00532 , Its called Ross-Tech Wiki and has lots of valuable info including fault codes and possible solutions. Well worth putting a shortcut to on your computer.
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Thanks very much for the links Steve.   To be honest, I've already seen these, however the solutions ross-tech wiki provides are not clear for dummies like me and I prefer if they showed pictures or videos in order to help me understand where the parts are located and what exactly to do with them.

No sure if it was mentioned, but when removing the sensor make sure you unclip the sensor when pushing it.

I slipped off the clip when i unclip mine and ended up taking the whole plastic clip with the sensor.

Its fair to say its a huge palarva trying to glue the plastic back on.

Quote from: bestfc01 on August 24, 2016, 08:57:44 AM
No sure if it was mentioned, but when removing the sensor make sure you unclip the sensor when pushing it.

I slipped off the clip when i unclip mine and ended up taking the whole plastic clip with the sensor.

Its fair to say its a huge palarva trying to glue the plastic back on.

Thanks for the advanced warning.  I have tried to take it off butit seems to be stuck.  Where are these clips?  Can you show me them in a photo/picture?

Sorry don't have a picture and not got car today to take one.

But if you get on your back and look up behind bumper you will see where sensor slides in, look towards plug end of sensor the clips are horizontal 180 degrees apart if I remember correctly. They are like small tabs with square cut in to them. Just gently push them away from sensor and then give front of sensor a good push it should pop out.

Quote from: johnnyroper on August 24, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
Sorry don't have a picture and not got car today to take one.

But if you get on your back and look up behind bumper you will see where sensor slides in, look towards plug end of sensor the clips are horizontal 180 degrees apart if I remember correctly. They are like small tabs with square cut in to them. Just gently push them away from sensor and then give front of sensor a good push it should pop out.

Just like above.
I dont have a picture and I dont have my car this week either.

There rears are a piece of p**s to do as you can lay on the floor and get a good look.

O and beware, there is prob alot of dirt build up in the rear bumper (well there was with mine), dont be directly under the actual sensor,

Also, dont over push the clip.
The clip only sits on about 3-4mm.

When you get the replacement your see how the notch is

They can be a royal PITA to get out but only because of the crud build up. Its not uncommon for the holder to come away from the bumper before the sensor pushes out so careful is the way to go!

On the plus side if it does come away then its easy enough to hot glue back into position so don't panic!!
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Thanks so much guys for your excellent advice and reassurance.  The cam position sensor and pdc sensor were supposed to arrive today, but unfortunately nothing has come through post. Most likely it should be by tomorrow.

Please be ready and watch out for my thread just in case I open the car and get stuck in replacing any of these sensors.

Thanks again.

Dont forget to take some pics for the ref library please!!
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Quote from: Mirez on August 24, 2016, 05:59:55 PM
Dont forget to take some pics for the ref library please!!

Not a problem.  I'll take them as I disconnect/reconnect the parts.  But if I post on here regarding this issue, I'd be grateful if someone could remind me, just incase I forget  :P

Quote from: Mirez on August 24, 2016, 05:40:04 PM
They can be a royal PITA to get out but only because of the crud build up. Its not uncommon for the holder to come away from the bumper before the sensor pushes out so careful is the way to go!

On the plus side if it does come away then its easy enough to hot glue back into position so don't panic!!

Ah Hot Glue.

Why didnt I think of that.
I struggled using some super strong superglue.

Hi guys... I'm already stuck.  Do I need to remove the air filter box to get to the timing belt cover?  And if so, how does the cover come off?

Yes, the airbox needs to come off. The procedure to remove the airbox and the top timing belt cover should be covered in the first few stages outlined here, there is no need to disturb the engine mount though, nor do you need to support the engine with a jack or mess around with the alternator belt and tensioner!

You need to:

a) remove the airbox
b) Unclip the top plastic timing belt cover, this will hopefully give you enough access to remove and refit the cam position sensor. Worst case you might need to remove the centre metal timing belt cover (which is accessed from below the engine mount, requiring undertray removal if it's fitted) but hopefully you can do it without.
Always learning..... Often by mistakes!

I can't take the sensor on the far right of the airbox, because it requires a security screw driver. Also do I lift the whole box out?

You don't need to unscrew the sensor, simply unclip the electrical connector from it. Yes, the whole box will lift out.
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Thanks mate.  Ive managed to lift it off and also taken off the timing belt cover.  HoweverI can't seem to find the cam sensor under there.

Have you referred back to this image?
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Yes.  I can just about see thegrommet and bolt, but how can I take it out and replace it without doing this blindly or without taking the timing belt off?

Also I've tried using a Ratchet spanner to get to the bolt and to me,  it's not possible without removing more parts.. Any advice

I'm not saying it won't be a bit fiddly as the below image was taken with the engine mount removed and the engine jacked up to improve access but you can still 'see' the sensor and grommet with the timing belt and tensioner still installed:

[attachimg=1]
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To be honest, I can't see the bolt or grommet without feeling for them.

Do you have whatsapp??  I can send you pictures in real-time of what I can see

Working blind on vehicles is not uncommon to be honest, if you don't feel confident in proceeding further then I can't be of any further help I'm afraid. Sometimes a small mirror (like an old wing mirror glass) can be helpful to allow you to 'see' things when they're not in your line of sight or there are obstructions.

P.S, I wouldn't be using a ratchet spanner to remove the sensor retaining bolt, it needs a 1/4" ratchet and a deep socket or shallow socket on a short extension I.M.O.
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Quote from: insanitybeard on August 25, 2016, 06:43:30 PM
Working blind on vehicles is not uncommon to be honest, if you don't feel confident in proceeding further then I can't be of any further help I'm afraid. Sometimes a small mirror (like an old wing mirror glass) can be helpful to allow you to 'see' things when they're not in your line of sight or there are obstructions.

I understand what you're saying buddy.  My worry is lets say I manage to take the bolt and mounting off, but then how is the cam sensor wire fed back in?  Do you simply push it in fron the top and it connects to the bottom?

Also what size is the bolt that needs coming off?

The bolt that retains the sensor should be a 10mm hex head as far as I can tell. My main concern would be to ensure you don't drop said bolt down into the lower timing belt area when you remove it! The purpose of removing the grommet is to allow you to feed the cable and the connector through from the engine bay- the actual connector for the sensor is near the oil filter housing, arrowed red, and the wire can just be seen emerging from the timing belt enclosure in the area I've circled yellow:

[attachimg=1]
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P.S, what does your new cam position sensor look like? It should look like this.
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Yes the sensor looks exactly like the one in the picture.  However, I've given up, because I don't feel confident in doing this as I'm not sure if I'm doing this the correct way.  I've started assembling the stuff back and I can't even get the damn airbox back in.

Best hand this job to a garage.   Any ideas how much they should charge?

Between half an hour to an hours labour I would guess.

P.S, I've just ordered one of these sensors for my Galaxy to hopefully rectify an intermittent starting problem. If you can wait until next week I can give you a first hand account of replacing the thing!
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Hi mate,

I'd be willing to wait and see how you get on.  I'm wondering if I could ask you a big favour?  ....Is it possible that rather than photos, you make a movie on your phone and upload it?  It would make it a lot easier for dummies like me to work out how you guys are replacing this part and also you can add it to the forum library?

My main worry is if I left it too long, it fails to start  ???

Anyway it's been an awful day today as it's been pouring down like hell.  Tomorrow is hopefully a dry day, so whilst I'm waiting for you, I'll give the rear parking sensor a try next.

You done the hardest part with air box and cover off.

As above use a 1/4 drive socket to get in the bolt but before removing put some rag in gap between lower cover and engine just in case you drop bolt it won't fall inside. A dab of grease in socket would also help keep bolt in socket.
The grommet can be grabbed with some long nose pliers I reckon, don't give up and pay a garage just yet try and tackle it again when it's not hammering down.

Quote from: johnnyroper on August 25, 2016, 09:09:14 PM
You done the hardest part with air box and cover off.

As above use a 1/4 drive socket to get in the bolt but before removing put some rag in gap between lower cover and engine just in case you drop bolt it won't fall inside. A dab of grease in socket would also help keep bolt in socket.
The grommet can be grabbed with some long nose pliers I reckon, don't give up and pay a garage just yet try and tackle it again when it's not hammering down.

Thanks for the encouraging post johnny.  Sometimes it's best to realise if a task might be a tad to difficult and that's what's happened in my case.  But I'm not one to give up. If insanity can provide a video showing how he takes out the old one and then replace it with a new one, I would sure as hell give it a go, but not until then.

Here you go a video off tinternet on changing sensor.

It's of a golf BRM engine but it's same set up for the auy Galaxy. It will be easier on a galaxy as there is no fuel pipes,intake pipe work or fuel pipes to remove/get in the way.

So long as you can use hand tools I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to have it changed and up and running inside an hour.

Quote from: johnnyroper on August 25, 2016, 10:23:05 PM
Here you go a video off tinternet on changing sensor.

It's of a golf BRM engine but it's same set up for the auy Galaxy. It will be easier on a galaxy as there is no fuel pipes,intake pipe work or fuel pipes to remove/get in the way.

So long as you can use hand tools I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to have it changed and up and running inside an hour.

Link? ? ? ? ? ?   :D


Quote from: johnnyroper on August 25, 2016, 11:50:18 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r4GzRBmhMO0


Haha sorry brain elsewhere today as on nights.

LOL! Don't worry buddy.  We've all been there  :P

Firstly, thanks for the excellent video.  This seems to be definately a job thats not for me, because it's too fiddly for me. 

This golf engine has somewhat different layout as the guy working is accessing some of the areas at the front, whereas mine are withing the timing belt.

He can also easily access the timing belt bolt by just moving some pipes, whereas I have an engine mount in the way, so the gap is very narrow.

I forgot to ask insanity what vehicle/engine he has, because if it's the same as mine, i.e. a ford galaxy 1.9TDI (mk2), then I think a similar video would be extremely helpful to make my mind up.