FORD galaxy 1.9 tdi 6 speed manual soft codeing help please please please

[nprman1967]

Hello all

Really need help on this please,  and in return i would be happy to help anybody else out with Ford IDS software issues.  a little about me

I am competent at ford ids scanning and programming,  i have Ford genuine software and hardware.

Last week i was asked to look at a ford galaxy 2002 so went there armed with my vcds 12.12 which to be honest I've never had much use for bar airbag crash data clear on a 2013 Audi a1.

Story goes,  owners speedo stopped working and fuel gauge was temperamental.  so he replaced speedo with one from scrap yard (different numbers on the rear) 

All gauges working now,  but now his speedo reports incorrect speed...

example your doing 30mph speedo reads 40mph.  we went on road test using both cars. and i verified this seems to get wider the difference the faster you go

OK so we got back and i scanned with vcds,  as mentioned have very limited knowledge working with this tool

Here is the coding i took form the instrument cluster 

software coding 01401
workshop code 01545

A pop up box came up  and the translation i made was the last digit 1 = a manual 5 speed box.  this car is a 6.

However i would need someone with proper knowledge to confirm

Also i am thinking maybe tyre size may be the problem here so if anybody could point me in the direction of were this option is shown and altered?

I have been reading a similar topic on here

https://www.fordmpv.com/smf2/ford-galaxy/incorrect-speedo-on-ford-galaxy-ghia-1-9-tdi/

which did touch on my issue,  if possible could i request Mirez advice here on the digit 1 ?

Guys all help appreciated and as i said anybody needs ids help i am here, 

Thanks all

P.s relating to the thread as shown above ford ids wont connect to a galaxy.  (tried and failed in the past) so how fords managed to code that particular cluster in the first place is a mystery to me.

[insanitybeard]

Have you taken a read of this? As somebody who has also used IDS I can confirm it is possible to get it to communicate with the Mk2 Galaxy- indeed, my former colleague used it to clear and programme keys to the PATS on my Galaxy when I bought it- but getting a connection was always very temperamental (Ford's WDS which preceded IDS was much the same), and the range of functions and diagnostics limited- because it's primarily VW systems/ software. In that respect, VCDS gives more functionality- but you can't use it to programme keys!

[insanitybeard]

P.S, being that the Mk2 Galaxy TDI's were only ever fitted with 6 speed VW manual gearboxes, I can't see how the replacement cluster could have been configured for a 5 speed manual gearbox, unless it was from a vehicle fitted with a Ford 2.3 petrol engine, which were fitted with Ford sourced VXT-75 5 speed manual transmissions. However, if this was the case the tachometer on the cluster would have to be wrong as the 2.3 petrol has a higher rev ceiling than the TDI!

[nprman1967]

Hello insanitybeard

Thank you for your reply

As a beginner with vcds can you expand on a read for me please what options to select and read which controller??

Please see attached image of the photo i took is this what you mean by read?

I have just been having that exact same conversation with a friend of mine r.e connection with ids,  I have a vcm2 and were now thinking its the earlier vcm1 that can comm with this early galaxy,  Could you confirm if it was the early vcm you used?

Yes agreed even if i am able to establish comms (i can borrow a early vcm if need be tomorrow) even so then coding the info from the original speedo to the replacement may not be as straight forward as one would have liked

So unless somebody can take a look at the codes in the instrument cluster and advise. My next step may be to remove the epprom and swap it to the replacement speedo

[nprman1967]

Have you taken a read of this?

yes i took a look earlier

Topic: Ford Galaxy - VCDS / VagCom Controller Coding  (Read 4825 times)

The sections i noticed were

Engine:
[01 - Engine Electronics] -> [07 - Encoding]
Transmission: ----X
00001 = Automatic
00002 = Manual Transmission

i am wondering if its set as a auto?  as the last digit in my "read" i assume its a read is a 1=automatic???

Yes im probba;y off here but as i said never used vcds much so basically looking for guidance

[insanitybeard]

I've never used VCDS so I can't help you there I'm afraid, but if that list is correct then the '1' at the end of the code would indicate it's configured for an auto. I last actively used IDS in 2007 (not that long after it's introduction) so my memory of it is pretty hazy, but my former colleague used it back in 2013 to programme keys on the Galaxy. When was VCM2 released? All I can remember about the VCM's is that they were smallish red coloured boxes.

[nprman1967]

ok chaps so just got back from this galaxy

i was correct the vcm2 will not connect to this year of car see image it wants the first generation vcm to establish comms.

So i went back to vcds.  soft coding the numbers were the same in instrument and 01401 i tryed to change the last 1 to a 2 and to 0 neither would change, the only number that did change was the workshop code i manged to change that to 00020 from 15020 i think it was,  made no difference speedo still 10mph out of sync

Running out of ideas fast here

[Mirez]

Apologies I'm bouncing around europe at the moment on business. The workshop code will have no effect what-so-ever, its purely an identifier (oddly enough to ID the workshop that carried out the work) that's used when you change something on the controller.

I don't believe Ford equipment can talk to the cluster which is one of the reasons why Ford have around 28 different part numbers for the cluster (depending on engine, gearbox, spec etc) where VW have just 9!

The soft-coding won't help fix your issue I'm afraid, soft-coding is generally used by VW controllers to tell the module what things to enable or disable. The distance multiplier (the last figure in the soft code) is used for very minor correction of the speed signal when combined with the auto gearbox, as you are discovering unfortunately you can't change this if the software installed isn't configured to use/allow it.

Unfortunately you do need to dump the eep from the old cluster and upload to the new one.

[SilverBeast]

If I'm correct then (Mirez will confirm it or shoot me down later......) and you have access to the old cluster you will need to connect that back up and use VAG-TACHO (free download) with a different lead  (available fron ebay) than used for VCDS.  You can dump the EEPROM from the old cluster onto your laptop and then (after swapping clusters back again) send it back into the "new" cluster.  This will have the advantage that it will also transfer the correct mileage from the old cluster to the new I believe.

I have only done this on my cluster in order to enable distance to empty on the trip computer.  You may need to ensure that the clusters are of the same type ie no FIS/Half FIS/Full FIS (all to do with the display in the middle below the warning lights.

[nprman1967]

Hello Silverbeast and Mirez

Thanks for reply,  I am competent to remove the epprom from the old and mount it onto the new,  however there are 3 soic8 epproms on the pcb,  do you happen to know which one holds the info i need to change?

I had no idea that vcds could dump the epprom from the software,  i would have thought it had to be removed from the board and read by upa or xtool ect,  if it can be done by the soft would you please do me a guide i would be happy to try that

again thank you both for your reply's  top blokes

[nprman1967]

ok just reread its vagtacho that can dump the epprom not vcds.. my bad reading to fast!

ok so my next step here will be to remove the epp from the original cluster and mount it on the replacement,  can somebody let me know which epp it is that stores the information,  or is it in a mcu?

[SilverBeast]

If you have the original cluster I'd suggest you get a VAG-TACHO lead from ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=vag-tacho&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sop=15 and use that (Ã,£12.95 delivered from the UK).  If the Galaxy also has the Trip Computer fitted you will also be able to enable the "Distance to Empty" feature too https://www.fordmpv.com/smf2/ford-galaxy-reference-library/galaxy-mk2-enabling-distance-to-empty-feature/msg83/#msg83

[nprman1967]

As luck would have it i had a vag tacho lead stashed away in all places down the rear pocket in my car seat... Amazing!  installed soft and lead connecting will go to job later and report if it sorts thanks again all whom have spent time advising.   

(pdf tut is nice also)

[nprman1967]

Hello chaps

update from today's finding,  ok so i have vag tacho available to me so i was able to dump the epp from the original set of clocks (fault with these clocks was random fuel gauge and no speedo read out at all) 

i wrote this dump into the replacement clock (saved original first) and low and behold the speedo stopped altogether and the fuel  gauge went all random,  basically it screwed up in exactly the same was the originals did....

wow so this tells me the dump has somehow been corrupted in the originals.....

i wrote the replacement clocks epp dump back and the speedo and fuel gauge came back to life unfortunalty and as expected still 10mph incorrect reading..


But learnt a lot from the process.  So now the hunt is on for some .bin files to write and see what happens.  the originals are 900 920 G so if anybody can source such a dump please let me know,

I have the two dumps saved if anybody wishes to view and possible make a good hybrid if your good at coding?

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on my findings   

[nprman1967]

hello again everybody

its been a while now since i posted this thread,  i am wondering if anybody has a good solid 900 920 G working dump they can let me have so i can try again to solve this issue?  PLEASE 

[bony6777]

hello again everybody

its been a while now since i posted this thread,  i am wondering if anybody has a good solid 900 920 G working dump they can let me have so i can try again to solve this issue?  PLEASE 

Hi. I possibly can send you my dump,but it's have a difference with your one in last letter. My one finishes on F. I can download it from my cluster some day on a week if this can help you.

[nprman1967]

yes please what year is yours? is it a diesel 6 speed?  thanks v.much for the offer

[bony6777]

yes please what year is yours? is it a diesel 6 speed?  thanks v.much for the offer

O. My one is a petrol.