Trip computer upgrade

[Edward Buttler]

Hi all,

I'm new to the Galaxy club, purchased a 2004 1.9 tdi for the space.


It's only the base model, so I'm missing my trip computer from my old car, and hence looking into retro fitting one.

I've already got the wiper stalk and speedo cluster, but I'm struggling on finding the wiring modifications required to get the new stalk to interact with the new cluster.

Does anyone have an info on this, can provide links etc?

Many thanks.

Any help is appreciated.

[Mirez]

Hi Edward, wiring the cluster isn't that big of a deal. You'll need to run wiring for the outside temperature sensor and for the low screenwash sensor (assuming you want the full experience, why wouldnt you!).

The tricky bit is finding a cluster that is compatible as there are 6 revisions of speed signal which isn't easy to adjust afterwards. Whats the car's build date as the wiring varied a lot around 2004 so giving you the correct pins to wire the stalk up will need the build date.

[Edward Buttler]

Hi There.

I've already purchased a cluster, and plugged in. Speed & RPM seem okay. Yes I do get a warning about washer level being low, and no outside temp is displayed. These would be good if I could wire these in. (I don't think my washer bottle has the sensor for level, so not too bothered about that. Will I already have the outside temp sensor already with it being the base model?

The car is 2003 build, vin = WF0GXXPSSG3J27977

Had a look at the plugs on the wiper stalk, on the inner plug, only the bottom two are wired. I assume additional ones of these need connecting to something.

Many thanks for the help. Looking forward to this project now the weather is getting better.

Cheers.

[mike wilson]

http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegSelector.do

Galaxy 2000-2006, Diesel 1.9TC (115PS), Machine Silver (Metallic)

VIN Number:     xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Registration Number:      xxxxxxxx
First Registration Date:      01.03.2004
Registration Country:      GB

Primary Features
Build Date:      22.09.2003
Vehicle Line:      Galaxy 2000-2006
Body Style:      5 Door Saloon
Version:      Low Series
Engine:      Diesel 1.9TC (115PS)
Transmission:      Economy 6
Drive:      RHD FWD
Axle Ratio:      3.68
Emission:      2000 EEC (EEC 7)
Air Conditioning:      Manual Air Conditioning
Territory:      (+)"GB"
Paint:      Machine Silver (Metallic)
Interior Fabric:      Stratus / Flannel Grey

Minor Features

     (-) Version Packages
     Less Special Purpose Vehicle
     Palmela Plant Build
     Marketing Level 1
     Less Dress Up RSO
     Power Front Windows One Touch Down
     With Manual Rear Windows
     Rear Quarter Vent Window - Hinged
     With Rear Dark Tinted Glass
     Window Pack 1
     With Heated Windscreen
     With Base Instrument Panel
     With Interior Cladding Surfaces
     With Carpet Floor Covering Level 3
     Less Front Floor Mats
     Less Rear Floor Mats
     Non Illuminated Sunvisor - Drivers
     Non Illuminated Sunvisor-Passenger
     Less Load Retention Net
     Roof Rack Without Crossbars
     With Dipping Rear View Mirror
     With Dual Manual Exterior Mirrors
     Drivers Non-Swivel Seat
     Passenger Non-Swivel Seat
     Seat Pack 12
     With Drivers Seat Armrest
     With Passenger Seat Armrest
     Front Seat Pack 1
     With Side Curtain Airbag
     Second Row - 3 Individual Seats
     Third Row Dual Individual Seat
     Less Child Intergrated Seat
     With Driver 4 Way Mnl.Seat Adjuster
     With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
     Less Rear Seat Armrest Packs
     Less Trailer Coupling
     With Soft Feel Gear Shift Knob
     With Radio Lock Control
     With Heated Washer Jet
     Less Headlamp Washer/Wiper
     Less Tonneau Cover
     Less Transit Coating
     Front Bumper Body Coloured Plastic
     Rear Bumper Body Coloured Plastic
     With Centre Rear 3 Point Seat Belt
     With Driver Air Bag
     With Passenger Air Bag
     With Steel Spare Wheel
     With Standard Rear Shock Absorbers
     6.0 X 16" Steel Road Wheel
     Any Brand Tyre Vendor
     4 Wheel Anti-Lock Braking System
     With High Back Front Seats
     Soft Feel Type Steering Wheel
     Less Speed Control
     Less Steering Wheel Audio Controls
     With Auxiliary Heater
     With MPH/KMH Speedometer
     Less Fuel Computer
     Less Door Ajar Warning Light
     Medium Duty Battery
     Extra Heavy Duty Alternator
     4050 TAS Stereo Cassette
     Less CD Player
     Less Audio Disc Jukebox
     Ice Feature Pack 5
     With 8 Speakers
     Less Telephone
     Less Telephone Preparation Pack
     Less Multi Media/Telematics System
     Less Family Entertainment System
     Less Cell Phone Interface System
     Less Cool Box
     Less Fridge
     Less VW Storage Pack
     Less Optional Equipment Pack
     With Halogen Headlamp
     Less Daytime Running Lamps
     Less Front Fog Lamps

[Edward Buttler]

Yup, it's a base model, hence doing a few minor upgrades

Looking forward to the wiring details for the trip computer.

[mike wilson]

I'm not sure you'll find an old style wiring diagram, as things are run somewhat differently these days.  The best bet is refining your GoogleFu until you find an online guide to how to do the job.  The technical guides here and on Fordwiki would be a good start. If nobody has done this particular job themselves before and documented it, your only option is to take a deep breath and dive in....

If you do, I can guarantee that a "how-to" article with photos will garner you with undying fame.  Or something like that.

[Mirez]

YES please do write it up as thats why this type of site exists, if people don't bother to reciprocate then the future belongs to paid sites

So on that note, I've looked it all up for you and the wiring you need to do is:

Outside Temp Sensor:
Pin 7 of C170  (Ground to Pin 1 of sensor) (Will be populated already as is a common ground)
Pin 26 of C169 (Supply from Pin 2 of sensor)

Low Screenwash Sensor:
Pin 7 of C170 (Ground to pin 1 of sensor)
Pin 6 of C170 (Supply from Pin 2 of sensor)

Trip Stalk:
Pin 1 to C169 Pin 24
Pin 2 to C169 Pin 23
Pin 3 to a suitable ground
Pin 4 to C169 Pin 25


Good luck!

[Edward Buttler]

Many thanks, your a Star!

One question though, which is C169 & C170, I assume these are the two connectors on the rear of the cluster, but which.

Cheers.

[bony6777]

169 right,170 left.

[Edward Buttler]

Cheers 

[Edward Buttler]

Just had a quick look at the two connectors...

There does not seem to be an easy way to work out :-

a) If the pins are already wired up, and
b) If they are wired, any ideas on the wire colours?

These connectors seemed to be sealed, and don't fancy trying to take them apart.

Cheers.

[Mirez]

No they come apart very easily.

Remove the entry cable tie
Look on the side of the connector for a square tab, lift this and slide the cover off the connector
You'll then see all the pins, look on the side of the holder and you'll see a rectangle cut out for each pin. Inside there is a tab of metal, depress with a small screwdriver and the cable can then be slid out.

[Edward Buttler]

Hi,

Decided to take a look at this today (since it's dry and the sun is out)


I've hit a stumbling block.....

The uninsulated female spade connectors which I have, don't fit in either the C169 connector, or the wiper stalk connector.

Does anyone have the part numbers for these for the C169 & Wiper connectors? Are these something which I can only get from a dealer (If they can be bought that is)

Cheers.

[Edward Buttler]

Went into Ford parts department. They could not help me, don't sell the connectors or pins

Trying some I've found on ebay which look similar sizes etc.

Fingers cross again.

[johnnyroper]

Try this site if you are able to measure what you need and identify from pictures, you should be able to cross reference part number with a uk supplier?

http://www.te.com/usa-en/plp/amp-connectors/Zn60Y30Dq.html?q=&n=41635%2054177&type=products&samples=N

[Grant2012]

@Mirez gave me this link when I did my oil level sensor which was very helpful

http://www.passatplus.de/umbauteile/stecker/stecker4.htm

some of the bits are what veedub call brand locked so you have to shop around between audi and seat as well to get em

[mike wilson]

Plenty of places that sell automotive electrical parts, online, without having to swim in the bay of sharks.

e.g.
http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/section.php/72/1/non-insulated-terminals