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Title: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: Grant2012 on January 30, 2022, 08:34:53 PM
As per the title. After 3 hours drilling out a shattered bolt today, I can't help but wonder how good they are? When alloys were a grand+ I see the point but now every car has them as standard do they really do anything to stop theft, is theft of wheels still a thing and finally, since you can buy universal kits online, do they just cause more hassle to the owner to anyone else!
Title: Re: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: Mirez on January 31, 2022, 04:16:02 PM
I've not had locking nuts on any of my last four cars for exactly this reason, they just cause me the owner more hassle then anything else. Wheels are insured after all :)
Title: Re: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: SirDavidAlhambra on January 31, 2022, 09:20:27 PM
Yeah, nobody nicks alloy wheels or car stereos any more
Title: Re: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: brianh on January 31, 2022, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: SirDavidAlhambra on January 31, 2022, 09:20:27 PM
Yeah, nobody nicks alloy wheels or car stereos any more

Really? Extreme example maybe, but there you go.
https://youtu.be/yV_aslxjSq4?t=174

That said, if anyone wants the wheels badly enough they will come equipped to remove the locking wheel nuts.

On the car stereo front, a lot of newer vehicles it isn't that simple to swap the stereo anyway, so much more difficult to remove it quickly, and some will only suit the vehicle they were installed into. Plus a decent stereo is much cheaper now than it was a few years ago.
Title: Re: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: johnnyroper on February 01, 2022, 06:42:45 PM
Every car I have if lockers are fitted they got removed and binned as they are just a pain in the arse,standard bolts everytime. If they want the wheels that badly they will have them anyway
Title: Re: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: SirDavidAlhambra on February 01, 2022, 08:33:36 PM
Alhamb and Galaxy alloy wheels do look so good though... really strong and safe looking
Title: Re: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: Mirez on February 02, 2022, 06:07:33 PM
There is still plenty of theft out there and yes, whilst radios are coded and locked there are still plenty of ways around that. It's also not exactly a 'mastermind' that robs stuff, I doubt they care if they make a tenner or a hundred - it's all free for them :(

For me the risk is worth it, I calculate they are more likely to go AWOL over night and that's fairly unlikely in a decent hotel car park. Just have to avoid the skanky areas :D
Title: Re: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: brianh on February 02, 2022, 08:44:34 PM
I can remember doing some training a few years ago in Luton, A few of the people doing the training stayed in a Travelodge down there. One of them got a smashed window thanks to leaving a couple of quids worth of change on show.
Title: Re: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: Mirez on February 02, 2022, 10:00:12 PM
Nah the problem wasn't loose change, it was using a Travellodge!! :P :P

The thing is that's an 'easy' crime isn't it, smash-grab-run and you've got money. Harder to lift all four corners and remove wheels, transport them and then sell them before you get money. Definitely not saying it doesn't or wouldn't happen I just don't think it's as prevalent as it once was. The other point is that it's expected for all alloys to have locking nuts, if you are out looking for cars without them it's probably safe to say they'll take them with or without.
Title: Re: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: brianh on February 02, 2022, 10:14:43 PM
Travelodge would be half the problem, Luton also wouldn't help though! ;D

Not as prevelent sure, though it could be like the catalyic convertor thefts, which tend to spike depending on the value of the metal in them. Also would depend on the wheels/car involved.

Incidentlally, just taken the lockers off the Disco as the locking key has started to split down one side of it, before I get stuck with a key that won't turn them.

Title: Re: Are locking wheel nuts worth it
Post by: insanitybeard on February 09, 2022, 01:18:48 PM
I've still got the factory locking bolts on the Galaxy but I was always dubious about trying to put 170nm of torque through the key which isn't that substantial! So whilst the standard bolts get torqued to 170nm, I only do the lockers to 130!