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Title: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on May 25, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
just had the passenger drive shaft done to 'hopefully' stop the chattering on the front end, and its Still just as bad AAAARRRRRGGGGGH  :'( ... Bluddy moneypit!!!
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: insanitybeard on May 25, 2015, 10:48:58 AM
Is it just the outer shaft you've replaced? It's not worn intermediate/gearbox stub shaft splines is it? What sort of noise and conditions is it happening under?
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on May 25, 2015, 10:50:35 AM
but to be fair, we have just had the Best camping weekend ever up in the lakes in it, and our little doggie Won the patterdale dog show  8-) so when I get this little annoying niggle sorted im sure im gonna Love this vehicle :)
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on May 25, 2015, 10:55:11 AM
Quote from: insanitybeard on May 25, 2015, 10:48:58 AM
Is it just the outer shaft you've replaced? It's not worn intermediate/gearbox stub shaft splines is it? What sort of noise and conditions is it happening under?


the whole shaft was replaced mate, and its a chattering whilst going over any rougher roads (that'll be 90% of them then!) Lol ... it was smooth as owt on the motorway tho.
I was convinced the new shaft would sort it But no  :( ... any ideas? 
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Mirez on May 25, 2015, 11:49:37 AM
The anti-roll bar drop link is often the cause of rattling noises from the front over rough road, cheap and easy fix :D
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Chrispb on May 25, 2015, 12:53:27 PM
Does the noise stop if you touch the brakes? if you have an anti rattle spring missing off of one or both brake callipers this can also cause an annoying rattle.
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: bigdave982 on May 25, 2015, 01:59:34 PM
Knocking
Rough roads
Drop links first port of call even if they feel "tight" still
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on May 25, 2015, 03:38:15 PM
Quote from: Mirez on May 25, 2015, 11:49:37 AM
The anti-roll bar drop link is often the cause of rattling noises from the front over rough road, cheap and easy fix :D

No, both drop links have just been done so it isn't them
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on May 25, 2015, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: Chrispb on May 25, 2015, 12:53:27 PM
Does the noise stop if you touch the brakes? if you have an anti rattle spring missing off of one or both brake callipers this can also cause an annoying rattle.

aaaahhhh!, I shall investigate this one further Chris :) many thanks, i'll let you know.

p.s, is it possible to see if these anti rattle springs are fitted with the wheel on full lock? or is it a wheel off jobbie?
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: bigjeeze on May 25, 2015, 04:16:24 PM
Shop around for the anti rattle springs -- VW wanted Ã,£17.00 each when I tried to buy them. I think I got them from Euro or GSF in the end.
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on May 25, 2015, 04:34:23 PM
Quote from: bigjeeze on May 25, 2015, 04:16:24 PM
Shop around for the anti rattle springs -- VW wanted Ã,£17.00 each when I tried to buy them. I think I got them from Euro or GSF in the end.

Euro carparts and GSF??? what is GSF? and how much did you pay for them bigjeez? ta mate :)
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: sasquartch on May 25, 2015, 05:36:07 PM
GSF = gsfcarparts.

Like Euro Car Parts - online or trade counters. Lots of them popping up so probably one not too far away.

http://www.gsfcarparts.com/

Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on May 25, 2015, 07:19:34 PM
Quote from: sasquartch on May 25, 2015, 05:36:07 PM
GSF = gsfcarparts.

Like Euro Car Parts - online or trade counters. Lots of them popping up so probably one not too far away.

http://www.gsfcarparts.com/

nice one, thankyou for that fellas :)

just to let you know that its probably not the brake pad springs because it still rattles its taters off even under braking  :(  so have we any Other ideas what it could be??? bushes? dampers? Anything else???
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: gregers on May 25, 2015, 08:40:58 PM
stab in the dark,not the plate at the back of the disks is it,thats been bent forward?
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: SilverBeast on May 25, 2015, 09:05:31 PM
Or something rattling round under the centre cap on the alloys?
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: insanitybeard on May 26, 2015, 06:55:59 PM
Front suspension top mounts/ bearings worn? Lower arm bushes? The anti roll bar bushes themselves as opposed to the drop link arms?
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on May 26, 2015, 11:33:03 PM
Quote from: gregers on May 25, 2015, 08:40:58 PM
stab in the dark,not the plate at the back of the disks is it,thats been bent forward?

Nope, not that.

Quote from: SilverBeast on May 25, 2015, 09:05:31 PM
Or something rattling round under the centre cap on the alloys?

Or that either.

its baffling the crap out of me, I have been under the car earlier and cannot feel anything loose or see anything Obvious that would rattle.
I had a thought that it might be the exhaust hitting the underside of the floor but it wasn't that either ... AAAARRRRRGGGH  :(

Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: gregers on May 27, 2015, 09:34:59 PM
iirc wasnt there a potential problem with the heat shield on the exhaust on these cars???.furthur along the run maybe?
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on May 27, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: insanitybeard on May 26, 2015, 06:55:59 PM
Front suspension top mounts/ bearings worn? Lower arm bushes? The anti roll bar bushes themselves as opposed to the drop link arms?

More to go at there (and more Ã,£Ã,£Ã,£ flying out of my pocket no doubt) thanks ISB ;)

Quote from: gregers on May 27, 2015, 09:34:59 PM
iirc wasnt there a potential problem with the heat shield on the exhaust on these cars???.furthur along the run maybe?

I shall investigate that one too gregers, thanks
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on May 31, 2015, 06:57:39 PM
Well, this noise seems to be getting worse, I drove around with both front windows down earlier and the cracking and chattering noise was definitely worse than last week  :( it seems to be a cracking noise under acceleration or braking and a chattering when going over none smooth roads (ALL of them around here  ::)  anyways, I jacked the car up when I got home and had a mooch around and the top mount seemed 'loose' I think ive read somewhere that it Should be like that! but nothing else is obvious to me though, and now im loathed to take it back to my mates garage to spend another load of money with no resolve to the problem.
worried of wigan ;)
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: insanitybeard on June 01, 2015, 09:20:15 AM
As another thought, have you checked the lower arm ball joint connecting the lower arm to the underside of the wheel knuckle? If you can get both front wheels off of the ground and get somebody to operate the steering lock to lock whilst you have a look around underneath it might make it easier for you to spot any knackered components or if the steering is operating smoothly and without any nasty grinding noises.
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Chrispb on June 01, 2015, 10:11:25 AM
Quote from: insanitybeard on June 01, 2015, 09:20:15 AM
As another thought, have you checked the lower arm ball joint connecting the lower arm to the underside of the wheel knuckle? If you can get both front wheels off of the ground and get somebody to operate the steering lock to lock whilst you have a look around underneath it might make it easier for you to spot any knackered components or if the steering is operating smoothly and without any nasty grinding noises.
I've had a similar issue with ball joints (not on a galaxy though) and the grease drying out causing a creaking groaning noise when turning the steering and working the suspension up and down.
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on June 05, 2015, 10:04:05 AM
check This one out!!! I looked underneath yesterday only to find the new drive shaft inner boot had spewed its grease all over the bottom of the engine n box, so this morn I takes it back to my mechanic mate who says Quote (???? EH????) WTF???? it looks like your gearbox has slipped backwards and rubbed the boot away and damaged it!  How the f*** can that have happened says I? well! it looks like the threads on the bolts at the top gearbox mount don't look all the way in, I can see clean thread like its not screwed in all the way (said he)  .
AAAARRRRRGGGGGH says I!  :o   anyways, I have phoned the gearbox place only to get answerphones on Both numbers  ???

Has any of the experts on here come across this before and causing the same problem with the driveshaft?
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: insanitybeard on June 05, 2015, 11:29:05 AM
So is it a case of the people that rebuilt and refitted your autobox didn't secure the gearbox mount properly, or cross threaded the bolts/ studs? If the gearbox wasn't properly secured then it could have been responsible for a whole load of vibration/ torque reaction with the vehicle in motion, it's possible if the 'box wasn't sat correctly then the CV boot could have rubbed on something which has worn it through, it would have had to be pretty bad though!  ???
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on June 05, 2015, 08:15:04 PM
its looking like that up to now Paul, im still waiting for the gearbox fella to get back to me so I can take it down to him, i'll post up what is said.
im not happy tho !
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Chrispb on June 05, 2015, 09:08:10 PM
Have you not tried lifting the box and tightening the mounting or are the threads damaged.
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on June 05, 2015, 11:38:54 PM
Quote from: Chrispb on June 05, 2015, 09:08:10 PM
Have you not tried lifting the box and tightening the mounting or are the threads damaged.

im gonna take it back to the guy who did the gearbox as its his mistake that seems to have buggered my driveshaft up, hopefully he will sort it
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on June 11, 2015, 06:58:21 PM
well, under close inspection by 3 of us there's NOTHING wrong with my new driveshaft! where all the grease gas come from is a complete mystery to us all  ???  but the gaiter is complete and not a hole in sight, the noise we have narrowed down to ANYTHING from the subframe to the top rubber on the shocker, Lmao
still nothing apparent But it seem to be suspension orientated 'somewhere' and im leaning towards the top bearing and rubber, but the loud crack doesn't make sense, chattering maybe but the crack?  ???

the gearbox has started bumping into gears again too, not as bad as before but not as good as when the gearbox fella first did it a few weeks back, could this be the TCM maybe??? any advice on this would be helpful  ;)
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on June 12, 2015, 11:03:03 AM
could the TCM be causing the hesitation/bumping gear changes does anyone know?
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: insanitybeard on June 12, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
If it's got an internal fault then the module could cause problems, or if there's dodgy or corroded wiring somewhere, but if you've just paid money for the gearbox to be rebuilt by somebody else and it's still playing up shouldn't they be addressing the issue?
Title: Re: chattering on the front passenger side ,Grrrrrrrrh :(
Post by: Lawmanmx on June 12, 2015, 06:27:31 PM
I have been back with it and they plugged it in with 2 different diagnostics and there were no faults shown on either.

could the TCM cause it to bump into gears then?  I don't wanna blow another hundred quid if its Unlikely to be the fault (and I thought the VAGCOM would have thrown a code up if there was something wrong?) 

I can see why people love these cars but I can see why they hate them too, Lol