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Title: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: chrisred01 on January 08, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
i have just recently changed the engine fuse box an alternator cable after it melted (common problem). since iv reconnected everything the galaxy wont turn over i have connected jump leads an still nothing. would anyone know what else i can try. when the fuse box melted the warning lights came on an car was sluggish then cut out. since replacing fuse box i cant get my galaxy to start, i would be most great full if anyone has ideas on what i can try. many thanks chris
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Mirez on January 08, 2015, 01:15:31 PM
Hi Chris, sounds like the fuse for the starter motor isn't in place or has blown. I take it he ignition comes on ok but just no start? That woukd also explain why jump leads have no effect.  Try bump starting it, if it fires it would also point to a start circuit fault.
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Chrispb on January 08, 2015, 01:32:07 PM
Is the car auto or manual?

Changing over fuse box and alternator lead does not cause a problem normally so would suggest the problem may have occurred prior to changing fuse box and lead or just may be coincidence that you now have a starter problem.
Check fuse 25 in the central fuse box first if that's OK I would check power supply (solenoid wire) to starter,that should be live when ignition key is in the start position.
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: chrisred01 on January 09, 2015, 12:08:52 PM
its a manual, wen ignition is turned on there is a sound of relays clicking an climate display is flashing, wen you turn the key nothing happens, any info would be great
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: chrisred01 on January 09, 2015, 12:33:56 PM
iv checked the fuse an still nothing but i noticed with the relays clicking the red alarm light is flashing on the door, iv not changed the alternator but does anyone think this could be the problem
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: insanitybeard on January 09, 2015, 08:11:33 PM
Is the battery definitely ok? If it's really discharged (which it could be if the alternator charging cable got hot enough to melt- this would have meant the battery wasn't being charged properly, maybe for quite some time before the failure) then possibly even trying to jump start it wouldn't have worked. If relays are clicking and the climate control panel flashing then it sounds to me like there may not be enough juice in the battery to power the starter.
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Chrispb on January 10, 2015, 01:39:19 AM
Clicking  relays is usually a sign of low battery voltage can you check your battery voltage and when attempting to start.
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: chrisred01 on January 17, 2015, 02:32:06 PM
checked battery an its all ok, wen you open the drivers door there is a relay constantly clicking an wen you turn on ignition the relays constantly click faster an car still wont start, remote central locking dont work an the red alarm light on drivers door is lit red all the time
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Chrispb on January 17, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
Can you tell us Battery voltage With;
1. Nothing switched on
2. Ignition switched on
3. Starter position.

Then at starter motor check voltage on red and black solenoid lead when key is in the starter position.
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: insanitybeard on January 18, 2015, 10:53:18 AM
Also, when you changed the fusebox (battery junction box) and alternator charging cable, did you check the condition of the cable that sits below it in the battery junction box? This cable supplies the main interior fusebox and can also be affected by corrosion/overheating.
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: chrisred01 on January 19, 2015, 11:21:51 AM
all the cables are ok and have good connections
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: chrisred01 on January 20, 2015, 11:57:25 AM
had the computer put on the car an its come up as a ECU fault so where to start from here, fords couldnt pin point what the fault is just said ECU fault, more money to spend again
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Chrispb on January 20, 2015, 12:50:39 PM
So some bright spark has said an ECU is stopping the starter motor operating? wrong there are no ECU's in the starter circuit.
A diagnostic reader will give a numbered code with a short description, there are several ECU's on the car which one is it referring to.

Also whatever code was present are not time stamped so it could be an old fault code that's not relevant now.

You also haven't answered my previous question about battery voltage
Can you tell us Battery voltage With;
1. Nothing switched on
2. Ignition switched on
3. Starter position.

Then at starter motor check voltage on red and black solenoid lead when key is in the starter position.
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: chrisred01 on January 28, 2015, 11:27:49 AM
id like to thank everyone for there help, my car is now staring an all working fine, the only problem i have is the aux heater fan is constantly on an u can smell diesel burning, is there anyway to turn it off or wat can i do to sort this,
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: insanitybeard on January 28, 2015, 01:12:22 PM
So what exactly did the problem turn out to be?!
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Chrispb on January 28, 2015, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: chrisred01 on January 28, 2015, 11:27:49 AM
id like to thank everyone for there help, my car is now staring an all working fine, the only problem i have is the aux heater fan is constantly on an u can smell diesel burning, is there anyway to turn it off or wat can i do to sort this,
The thanks is much appreciated but we would be more interested to know what the fix to your problem was!!
As for the booster heater are you saying the heater is working but seems to be running all the time the engine is running? or are you saying the combustion fan only is running all the time?
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: chrisred01 on January 29, 2015, 10:42:37 AM
starter motor was stuck an thats why it wouldnt start, but i just got this aux heater fan constantly going on it which never has before, any ideas
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: bigdave982 on January 29, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Its cold outside aux heaters is doing its thingâ˜ș
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Chrispb on January 29, 2015, 12:06:53 PM
Removing fuse 12 will disable the heater.
The heater would normally kick in at temperatures below 10degs C does the little exhaust get hot, if so then it sounds like it's working OK
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: gregers on January 29, 2015, 08:46:44 PM
dont complain that you can hear it,thats good news.
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: chrisred01 on January 30, 2015, 12:44:31 PM
as to fixing the car for stating the computer picked up a immobiliser fault which was checked an computer was reset an car started straightaway, since that has been done the aux heater keeps running an is still running a hour or so after car is turned off
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Chrispb on January 30, 2015, 01:47:29 PM
The heater is supplied with a permanent 12volt supply from fuse 12 to pin 1 on the heater multiplug but the heater requires an engine run signal to function, that means a 12volts supply to pin 7 on the heaters multiplug, this is fed from fuse 3.
When you switch the engine off you lose the engine run signal and the heater should shut down.

You haven't by any chance got the independent heating option (timer control panel by interior mirror)

Was the heater working before the fuse box problem?
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: chrisred01 on January 31, 2015, 11:06:21 AM
i never heard the heater running before the fuse box problem
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Chrispb on January 31, 2015, 11:23:39 AM
Have you had the car through a winter before? the heater only initialize when ambient temperature is below 10 deg C
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Jakehands on March 26, 2019, 05:43:04 PM
I know this is an old post (same issues i think) did your door led stop flashing? Mines like crazy also fan unit goes mad
Title: Re: galaxy mk2 1.9tdi auxillary fuse box burnt
Post by: Jakehands on March 26, 2019, 05:47:40 PM
All i did was change ignition barrel and kept old transponder as i knew they were different chips