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The UKs obsession with new cars

Started by Mirez, May 10, 2022, 09:43:38 AM

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Having just returned from two weeks in Spain, it's made me wonder what the UK's obsession is with new cars? It's fairly rare to see a Mk2 Galaxy anymore and getting there with the Sharan/Alhambra as well yet there are still plenty about on Spanish roads, along with older models from pretty much every manufacturer. It's been an eye-opener tbh.

Considering the mileages are likely to be higher it made me think why we, as a country, keep on wanting newer cars? If we consider 'older' cars to be from MY2000 onwards, there isn't really much difference in refinement between an older car and a newer one. There isn't the massive technology improvements we saw between say a 1980s car and a 2000 one and if anything reliability of cars from 2000/2010 period was actually better. It's only really the environmental aspect of the engines that has 'improved' (I use that in the loosest sense as I don't think it's improved, rather then been masked) and arguably the environment suffers far more from manufacturing a new vehicle then it does over the mileage lifecycle.

Just an interesting point really, we spend all this money 'upgrading' our cars for what?
03 Ford Galaxy 1.9 TDI 115 Ghia in Spruce Green Metallic
With cream leather interior, Full Bodykit, Remapped at 145bhp, Lowered on 18's
13 Porsche Cayenne 3.0 V6 Diesel in Umber Metallic
262Bhp AWD and Factory fresh...for now!
58 Ford Transit 2.2 TDI 115 in Frozen White
With retrofitted everything except another slidey door! :)
LAUNCH X431 Pad PRO - Scanning & Coding for all makes and models done in Wiltshire in exchange for winegums! :)

I suspect it's something to do with lots of cars being leased on finance rather than purchased outright and the manufacturer's basically 'forcing' upgrades on people constantly.

Plus some people think that new cars are more reliable which isn't necessarily the case.

Like you, I think older cars are simply just the best value for money. The difference in quality between a 10 year old car and a brand new one is negligible, they're all excellent.

Plus I always find it strange when you see people driving around in a £40,000 car like they're simon cowbell on their way to the oscars while living in a small little house.

You just can't beat the Mk2 Alhamb. It has everything a motorist could ever want!
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all. Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

I don't think Spain has so much of an issue with rot due to the warmer climate?

I do agree there is too much chasing the new shiny things here though.

I have a 2005 Ford Focus and it already has rust developing :(
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all. Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

Mirez is right, there are definitely different buying habits on the other side of the channel. When my wife and toured northern France a few years back, we commented on the sort of cars, Peugeot 205, Citroen ZX and the like, which we had not seen on our roads for the best part of 20 years. Also, when we last toured southern Germany, in 2019, we had to obtain an emissions sticker from Berlin in  order to ensure that we could drive into Munich. Our vehicle is Euro 4, and walking around central Munich, I was surprised at the number of other Euro 4 stickers to be seen on parked vehicles.

Whether it is a financial imperative to run an older car, or whether there is a desire to get value for money from an older model, I know not, but as Mirez observes, there is definitely a difference.

I have heard it said that German car manufacturers refer to the UK as 'Treasure island'. 

Another thing I've noticed when comparing cars with friend abroad - British vehicles have much more bells and whistles compared to those my friends own.  Or maybe that's just my friends...

Definitely corrosion is an issue, although MkII (and even MkI Galaxys) are not uncommon round here.  Maybe that's just around here.....

Quote from: mikewilson on May 26, 2022, 08:44:43 AMAnother thing I've noticed when comparing cars with friend abroad - British vehicles have much more bells and whistles compared to those my friends own.  Or maybe that's just my friends...

Definitely corrosion is an issue, although MkII (and even MkI Galaxys) are not uncommon round here.  Maybe that's just around here.....

I've seen a few MK2 around down this way - noticable that the petrol ones are still around in London as they work well for folk that need the large boot and are ULEZ compliant so avoid the £12.50 daily charge. Not so many of the diesels down there, but they are still about. MK1's not so much, but then few cars of 22+ years old of any make or model are anymore.

June 11, 2022, 09:01:22 AM #7 Last Edit: June 11, 2022, 09:08:06 AM by Mirez
Very true, the scrappage scheme saw most of those off which is a shame.

On this topic, I picked up a 2008 2.0 Highline Passat at the weekend for £1200 which was 'broken'. It needed a new sensor and its now purring like a kitten. Admittedly it's been impeccably well maintained by its two owners and with 100K on the clock it's refined, comfortable and should be reliable. It's also in near mint condition which goes to show that if you look after a car it can go and go without the need for leasing or big finance deals!

Another point is that I've updated the navigation and coded a few options in, all things that are 'component protected' under all new VW's. I do genuinely think we've been through the 'golden era' of cars where technology has moved away from user benefits and is now put on cars purely for money making and hinderance to non-dealers.
03 Ford Galaxy 1.9 TDI 115 Ghia in Spruce Green Metallic
With cream leather interior, Full Bodykit, Remapped at 145bhp, Lowered on 18's
13 Porsche Cayenne 3.0 V6 Diesel in Umber Metallic
262Bhp AWD and Factory fresh...for now!
58 Ford Transit 2.2 TDI 115 in Frozen White
With retrofitted everything except another slidey door! :)
LAUNCH X431 Pad PRO - Scanning & Coding for all makes and models done in Wiltshire in exchange for winegums! :)

I hear that, in some cars, the battery is electronically encrypted and has to be programmed by a dealer in order to work with a particular motor vehicle.

And I'm not taking big expensive batteries like in electric vehicles, I mean small ordinary batteries that just power the starter motor.
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all. Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

Not encrypted as such you can replace battery and it will work. The reason you have to register/code is all down to charging characteristics with smart charging systems. Doesn't have to be done at a dealer my foxwell scanner does it

Ah, that sounds far better!

You guys know everything!!
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all. Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

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