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What's your front spring colour code?

Started by Orbis, January 08, 2022, 10:12:29 AM

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Hello and happy newyear!

I've always found that the suspension on my 2003 1.9 tdi 115bhp is very hard and stiff. The front springs have colour code 1 green/ 1 yellow . The shock absorders are 7M0 413 031 G (still the original parts after 204k miles). If I look it up at 7zap.com, this are heavy duty springs with standard shock absorbers. The car also has 195/60r16c van-tyres (maybe these tyres make it more uncomfortable too). I have a set of original mk1 alloy 16" rims with the 215/55r16 tyres which I want to try.

I'm wondering what is your spring setup? Which colour code do your springs have in combination with which tyre size?
(and shocks?)

thanks!
I own a MK1 1999 2.3 DOHC Ghia & 2003 1.9TDI Trend.

I think the C tyres have more ply/levels of ply rating, suggesting they should be stiffer than an XL rated tyre?

I've run with both the 15" and 16" wheels though on a petrol, Currently I've got 215/55/r16 97v Maxis tyres fitted to the front
https://www.tyresdirectuk.co.uk/products/215-55r16-97v-xl-maxxis-premitra-all-season-ap3?taxon_id=8 on the original 16" wheels the car came with.

They seem a lot better than the 15" Toyo tyres that were previously on it, which were reused from my previous Galaxy.

They seem fine though this is on a Petrol 2.3 not the diesel.

As for the spring colour coding, can't help you there as I suspect they are mostly rust colour coded! One of the front shocks is an anschler one from ECP, the other is whatever was fitted when I got the car when the previous Galaxy died. I need to do an oil change soon on it, so when thats being done will try to look for colour code if I remember.

If you let me know where I can find the colour code please I will check my own vehicle and let you know what it says.  K you
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all. Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

Its usually paint bands on the spring towards the top. They may not be there at all if they are aftermarket springs.

Yes, I just checked mine and there are no coloured rings, they are just black
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all. Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

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here it is  :)

I still have the original struts and the springs aren't too rusty so...

On my mk1 2.3 it is colour coded white/ yellow and suspension is softer and more comfortable.
Sadly I can't find the specs of alle those colour codes (and there are a lot of them)

But as said, I need to try the 215/55/16" tyres to see if it makes any difference with the C-tyres. I also think the C-tyres are stiffer and more noisy.

Sadly the mk2 has slightly bigger brake rotors than the mk1 so it's not allowed to fit 15" wheels from the mk1 for testing
I own a MK1 1999 2.3 DOHC Ghia & 2003 1.9TDI Trend.

C is a commercial tyre which you wouldn't expect to find on a Galaxy! They are much harder wearing then a passenger car tyre and generally need higher pressures so will be stiff as hell and really noisy, you'll also have way lower grip then you would on a regular tyre so definitely start there. Mines on 17" wheels with the factory lowering kit and glides along lovely.

Something else to check is that your insurance is valid with commercial tyres on the car, some are fine with it, some will say its a modification (and whack a premium on) and some will say the policy is void so worth a phone call.
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January 08, 2022, 08:08:50 PM #7 Last Edit: January 08, 2022, 08:12:49 PM by brianh
Theres a bit more info on the parts catalogue - which can be accessed here
http://catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l=bWFya2V0PT1ldXJvfHxjYXRfaWQ9PTIyMjV8fGNhYmJyPT1WWXx8dGhrPT0wfHxzdD09NjB8fHN0cz09eyIyMCI6IkV1cm9wZSIsIjMwIjoiR2FsYXh5IFZZIDIwMDAtMjAwNiIsIjQwIjoiQiBGcm9udCBBeGxlIExlc3MgQnJha2VzIiwiNTAiOiJCMDIgRnJvbnQgQXhsZSBMZXNzIEJyYWtlcy5Gcm9udCBTdXNwZW5zaW9uIFN0cnV0cyBBbmQgU3ByaW5ncyIsIjYwIjoiQjAyMDEwIEZyb250IFN1c3BlbnNpb24gU3RydXRzIEFuZCBTcHJpbmdzIn18fGFscGhhPT1CfHxncm91cD09QjAyfHxzZWN0PT1CMDIwMTB8fHNldD09VllCMDJ8fGltZz09RDAwMjEwNTEwMXx8ZjEyPT00MjI2NDY0KzA%3D

And yes, theres about a dozon different specs, but no indication of the spec there, just the appropiate ones for a given vehicle.

As you say the later mk2 the 15" wheels won't fit, the early ones do as the brakes are different. I find the 16"s seem better out of the two. I'd assume the sticker inside the fuel cap would show only 16"s on yours.

Thanks for the information.

Seems that I really need to try the 215/55 r16 tyres. Fact is that the car came with the 195/60r16c tyres from factory. The owners manual also lists this tyres. Maybe this is different in the UK? As my Galaxy is for the Belgian market.

So are the 195/60r16c tyres so uncommon in the UK on a Galaxy, Sharan or Alhambra? The car certificate says it's the only tyre size that can be fitted with snow chains.
I own a MK1 1999 2.3 DOHC Ghia & 2003 1.9TDI Trend.

As far as snow chains are concerned, I don't think I've ever seen anyone using them here in the UK, its rare you'd need them here unless maybe you were up in Scotland.
I know you can't get away with standard tyres of lower than 95 load rating (if you do the ride is somewhat bouncy and lurching, and they don't last anywhere near as long with the shoulders wearing out far quicker than the middle).

Your first post says you have another set of tyres/wheels, I'd give them a go personally since it won't need anything beyond the effort to swap them over?

The sizes shown on mine are attached, I've run that on the 195/65 R15 and 215/55 R16 out of whats listed there. I suspect your options may be different (and possibly the pressures as well). Mine tends to run with a load in the boot (tools for work, kit for work) plus an LPG tank under the back end, so is rather heavy on the rear. I tend to run the rear end around 45psi and the front at 41 since there is rarely much extra weight in the front end.

Just out some Michelin cross climates on, that should sort it. I wouldn't worry about the suspension tbh
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all. Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

here are my options. And the manual also lists a 17" tyre. I will try the 215/55r16 very soon then  :)
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I own a MK1 1999 2.3 DOHC Ghia & 2003 1.9TDI Trend.

Don't think thats the same spec as the diesels over here, though it clearly specifies the C type tyres rather than the higher load rating than normal car tyres that we seem to be specced for over here. That and the pressures listed probabbly go a lot of the way towards explaining the hard ride though. As you say trying the other option you have seems the sensible next step.

My 2004 TDI also had the green/ yellow coded springs fitted to the front. I replaced them with KYB springs when I had the struts out a couple of years back to replace the top mounts and bearings, because I noticed that the paint on the springs was flaking and the metal underneath was going rusty. As the struts had been such a pain in the ass to remove from the vehicle (snapped knuckle bolt due to corrosion and rust in the top mount upper plates where they fill up with water), I didn't want to have to revisit the job again anytime soon so opted to replace both springs whilst I was there!

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Mine is an 09 Alhambra Ecomotive with BRT engine and factory fit 16" steel rims. Both the Alhambra and my previous vehicle, a 2004 Galaxy also with 16" steel rims, had factory fit 196/60R16C Bridgestones remaining on the back axle, and the Alhambra had replacement Nankang Passion CW20s on the front, when purchased. I have to say i was a bit dubious about the Nankangs to begin with, but they have proved to be quieter than the factory Bridgestones, and I have had the Nankangs all round now on the Alhambra, ever since the Bridgestones wore out. The Nankangs have proved to be economical and long-lasting - and no, the vehicle does not turn sideways at roundabouts. I tried Barums on the Galaxy and they were noisier than the Bridgestones. I will check spring colour codes when next under.

I picked up a set of 16" chains in LIDL, a few years back, at a very acceptable price, just before a visit to Germany during winter months, and they are kept ready in my winterising bag.   

Nankang seem to have had a bad reputation ever since their Ditchfinder range but actually they're pretty good budget tyres in my opinion
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all. Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.